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I know I shouldn't read the MSN news pages that are headlined when I sign into my hotmail. I know I shouldn't, and I do anyway. So its really my fault.

But is it true? Please tell me this isn't really the way people lead their lives. Please. The sexism contained in this article makes me kind of teed off. Which is a polite way of saying "this bullshit pisses me off!"

For you hetero (and hetero-normative) couples out there- is this true? Is it the way it is because you're a man (or butch), or because you're a woman (or fem), or because you've been socialized that way? Or is it just due to your personality (e.g. you're just a disorganized person, or you have ADD, etc.)?

It horrifies me to think there are still people out there who think like this.

Date: 2008-05-31 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marieoroumania.livejournal.com
Look, we just have to accept that we are weak and crave nice shoes and Cosmos while we are searching for the perfect stockbroker.

I recommend some time in bed with "Women Who Run With The Wolves," or "The Grrl Genius Guide to Life," I promise you will feel better.

Date: 2008-05-31 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marieoroumania.livejournal.com
P.S. NO, that is total fucking bullshit and I think it's part of the PR push around the "Sex and the City" movie.

Date: 2008-05-31 08:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ericcoleman
So you're saying that life isn't a glorious cycle of song ???

Date: 2008-05-31 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marieoroumania.livejournal.com
Oh, no, not in the slightest. Nor is it a medley of extemporanea ;)

Date: 2008-06-01 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurahcory1.livejournal.com
Hey, I *am* the queen of Romania!

Date: 2008-05-31 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j00j.livejournal.com
*brain asplodes*

Date: 2008-05-31 09:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] robling-t.livejournal.com
Weeeell, I can kind of back up the "not seeing weeds" thing, since Jerry-from-upstairs just planted a bunch of flowers that I'm pretty sure had to have already been dead when he started... :)

Date: 2008-06-01 03:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironheadjane.livejournal.com
Yeah. Jon is such a freak about that. He can't find things that are obvious to me, but in a semi-cluttered space, but clutter that drives me crazy doesn't phase him at all.

Date: 2008-05-31 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
I see some of the stuff. Some of it makes sense to me. Maybe the wording is annoying, but I do think there are gender differences and traits (and they've been out there, its not like there is a suprise) and sometimes that causes friction in relationships. It does not mean that a gender MUST have those traits, but that it is seen enough in them that you can do studies like this and find commonalities.

It's the template

Date: 2008-05-31 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anansi133.livejournal.com
There's nothing "true" about this article, it's just another example of how Big Media expects to see us. Buying into it all or refusing to, that's less the struggle, more about rejaecting all of it wholesale and then inventing everything from scratch. Any wonder that men and women are messed up with each other?

Turning off the TV/newsfeed/cosmo/whatever is one first step.

Date: 2008-05-31 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosindust.livejournal.com
While that might be true with some couples, I know plenty more where the guy shampoos the lining of his carseats while his girlfriend lives waist-deep in trash.

Date: 2008-06-01 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sadie-sabot.livejournal.com
what annoys me the most about the article is that the "solutions" are all 'hey, lady, just do things the way HE likes it and everything will be fine!" bleh.

i will say, though, once I stopped taking emotional responsibility for my hetero relationship, it started to unravel....that is, once i stopped being responsible for everyone's emotions and just started dealing with my own.

Date: 2008-06-01 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurahcory1.livejournal.com
In our marriage, my husband does about 2/3s of the cooking. He makes home-made pizza from scratch, he does grilling, he cooks rice, he makes fruit pies. I do tend to make more of our travel arrangements. We both deal with the yard; he mows, I plant and water flowers (though he maintains his cooking herbs out back), we rake leaves in the fall as a team.

Like the poster above, I'm a bit dismayed that the article's solutions seem to be about tricking the men to do what we want, or just dealing with it.

Date: 2008-06-02 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhobike.livejournal.com
The attitude taken in that article is way off base, but in my relationship we do have some of those tensions around housework and cooking. I can't seem to help it, I see dirt and want things done a certain way. I figure it's because of how I was raised. My mother's kitchen rules are so strict that I refused to learn them and have never cooked unsupervised in her kitchen. I want to be more laid back, but I can't be in the same room while mr. rhobike is washing dishes or I'll criticize. And I cook dinner more often because I'm the one that thinks it should be cooked; he gladly provides takeout on most of his share of nights (though when he does feel moved to cook he does it well). Yeah money can smooth over some rough spots.

On the other side of the equation, (1) I don't know what they're talking about with the double dates--we rarely go out with another couple, mainly we socialize either with one single friend or as a group with our "urban tribe." (2) We don't have a yard, but mr. rhobike took over watering all our houseplants because he knew they'd die otherwise. (3) We both hate planning vacations, so we never plan them--we go with other people who are willing to plan.

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